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At Hot Chips 28 AMD has released more details about Zen architecture. These show how big the jump to the predecessor Excavator in some areas actualy is, many buffers have been massively increased, the cache completely redesigned and made ​​clear brisk. Because the goal was clear: Being competitive.

Zen: Replacement for Jaguar and Excavator, extremely optimized

Zen is AMD's product for each market, AMD articulates once again. The recently leaked roadmap with Raven Ridge, that showed a product with a TDP of only 4 Watt is underpined by today. Because the manufacturer speaks of fanless notebooks which are driven with Zen. On the other hand, the architecture is hoisted up to supercomputers - Keyword Naples , the 32-core processor AMD showed live last Thursday for the first time. But this might not even be the end of the flagpole, special CPUs paired with a graphics unit for HPC s are also possible.

Nothing left from Excavator

The changes compared to its predecessor are brutal - but just for a really new architecture is also thought. The buffer sizes for the individual segments are sometimes doubled, in most cases, but is at least an increase of 50 percent on the credit side, either in integer or FP scheduler and the load / store / Retire queues. Also the 168 entries comprehensive Physical register file in the integer level and the 160 for floating-point operations are among the innovations. AMD has extremely revised the L1 and L2 caches, for the first time since the old Opteron-times there are again 64 KByte L1 at the front. Coupled everything is as usual with improvements in branch prediction, garnished with SMT to pull out of a core two threads. AMD also brought along some new instructions like RDSEED over SHA1 / SHA256 to XSAVEC / XSAVES / XRSTORS many security features are now supported natively, the classic features such as AVX & AES are of course still on the field again.

When looking at the competition and the architecture of Intels Haswell and Skylake it shows superficially certain similarities, the entries in the schedulers and buffers are exactly the same in some cases. But this is hardly surprising, since AMD reverted back to the classic design pattern, which looks very similar to prior years, after the failed trip with Bulldozer and its radical new design. Anyway its to early for any conclusions about the performance, because the information is still too superficial and not going far enough - also from Intel, who lately barely reveales details about the architecture. For AMD, however, had let compete with eight cores at the same clock a few days ago an 8-core Summit Ridge against Intel Broadwell-E, with the result that both were similarly fast .

AMD summarizes Individual cores with the cache to a block of four, calling the new construct CPU Complex (CCX). On the four cores supports 8 MB L3 cache, the cache is divided into several slices. AMD stressed, however, that each core can access any portion of the caches in the CCX with the same latency. While the L1 and L2 cache bandwidth is increased by a factor of 2, it should even reach a factor of 5 in the L3 cache.

No information on memory, I / O and other Uncore material

AMD actually behaves amazingly quiet in everything else which still accounts for a processor. Because its not done with the cores alone, at the forefront of course the familiar Northbrigde to the memory controller, the PCI Express lanes and any other material which was formerly always classified as Uncore. The rumors go there currently still in many directions, tangible facts are scarce. There is nothing more to do than to wait for the next few weeks, because should the release really happen yet this year, more and more information will be published.

Note: Although the presentation of AMD local time in Cupertino goes across the stage until late on Tuesday, participants like Computerbase will receive spot all information and presentations on the first day complete without a waiting period. But has also on site Computer Base made ​​an appointment with AMD on Tuesday and the message update / supplement as needed.

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Nema tu puno mudrovanja, AMD gosn Jim Keller-a nije angažiral da bere jagode to sigurno.Človek je došel pa odradio posel, i ode on dalje za novim CPU izazovima. Točnije gosn Keller je otišel u Samsung, gdje je opet na istoj poziciji dakle kao CPU šerif, ili po engleski Chief CPU arhitect.

http://www.bug.hr/forum/topic/komentari-it-vijesti/amd-zen-arhitektura-cetvrtom-kvartalu-2016-godi/230196.aspx?page=3&jumpto=4786664&sort=asc&view=flat

Sve ovo kaj si ti citiral, prosječan korisnik engleskog neče baš ništa skužit, i to prvenstveno zato jer jednostavno uopče ne razumije detalje CPU dizajna.

Pocetkom 2017 ga mozes ocekivati u prodaji. Mada bi na tvom mjestu cekao Skylake E, ili otisao iduce godine na Cannon lake.

Kome treba nešto kao Skylake-E, taj će čekati Naples :)

Manje se komentira onaj dio prezentacijskog videa sa dual-CPU Opteronima ... ali ako su tamo bila stvarno dva 32-core Naplesa (ili kako već ide množina od Napulj :) ), to je 128 threadova, 128 PCI-lanea ... zvuči kao odličan workstation za 3D, CPU ili GPU render engine.

http://www.pcekspert.com/clanak/amd-zen-x86-arhitektura/

 Mene i dalje impresionira AMD kompatibilnost hardvera unatrag nekoliko godina. 

Npr. svog Phenoma II 965 mogu staviti na najnoviju ploču sa AMD čipsetom jer ga podržavaju sve AM2+, AM3 i AM3+ ploče, jedino što bi tada uvjetovalo promjenu je RAM na DDR3. 

7-8 godina star CPU i može na najnovije čipsete i sockete, koliko je to generacija u odnosu na ovu moju ploču, 3-4 generacije čipseta su unazad kompatibilne i za to im se mora skinuti kapa. 

Pa ako misliš stavljat 8 god star proc na novu ploču - dobra je stvar. S druge strane pogledaj i7-2600k.. i dan danas na ~4.5GHz odličan proc ali aj ti nađi ploču na kojoj možeš clockat ako ti crkne stara. 

Bas se veselim novom Cpu od AMD-a, nadam se da ce biti dobra i popularna platforma.

Mogu se kladit da si tako nešto govorio prije 10ak godina o daciji s plinom.. 

Volio bih da bjasniš  scenarij u kojem nije.

Otkaže mi ova matična ploča kupim novu i ne moram mjenjati procesor, samo memoriju ili eventualno da potražim neku stariju AM2+ matičnu sa DDR2 podrškom.

Ako želim performanse, stavit ću novi procesor, ali o tome ja ne pričam iako tebi to samo pada na pamet. 

Vjerovao ili ne ja sa ovim setupom sam igrao Witchera 3 na Ultra/High postavkama na full hd monitoru. Svjestan sam da 60 fps nije dostižno u najmodernijim igrama, ali meni je ugodno igranje sve što je više od 30 fps-a. Odavno me je prošla manija ulaganja u najnovije stvari sve dok ovo koliko toliko dobro fercera. 

Pusti šuplje priče, pa nije im to glavni adut niti vrhovni cilj da sve bude unazad kompatibilno. Da su mogli napravili bi bolji CPU i za njega adekvatan socket i čipset, jer nema šanse da povjerujem da su žrtvovali performanse radi kompatibilnosti. To je priča za malu djecu.  

 Ma neka izgleda kao krumpirova zlatica ak bu delal kak spada. A bude