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Pričaš lovačke priče. 20-ak % najviše, u clock per clock. 

On the desktop gaming front in terms of benchmarks, we have seen Kaby Lake pull a general 20% advantage. Keep in mind these are comparing Kaby Lake and Sandy Bridge at identical clocks. But I will suggest that when we go back and test real-world gaming, that delta will get a lot more narrow. I am very interested in collecting data on this in the coming weeks.

https://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/01/13/kaby_lake_7700k_vs_sandy_bridge_2600k_ipc_review/5

Overall, a move from Sandy Bridge to Broadwell from an IPC perspective gives an average ~21% improvement. 

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9482/intel-broadwell-pt2-overclocking-ipc/3

Compared to Sandy Bridge, Skylake offers an average gain of 22.3% in application, In game the average gain is this time of 21.1% against Sandy Bridge

http://www.hardware.fr/articles/940-6/cpu-sandy-bridge-vs-ivy-bridge-vs-haswell-vs-skylake-4-g.html

 haswell je 16% brži ipc od sandyja, a skylake i kaby lake imaju isti ipc. skylake od haswela ima 5-6% brži ipc

It's not surprising - but it is a bit shocking to see in this form: Kaby Lake truly does offer zero to the consumer in terms of clock for clock performance. (In fact, a couple of the results show it slower than the Skylake, but these are within the margin of error.) Enthusiasts and analysts have often lamented the "slow" progression of IPC changes on Intel's Core architecture since the introduction of Sandy Bridge, increasing just 3-6% on the product release cadence. Seeing that come to a halt in these graphs is disappointing, to be sure, but reflects the market changes that led to the halt: process technology cost, lack of competitive hardware, declining value of the desktop PC markets. 

Let's hope that Intel has changes in mind for Cannonlake / Coffee Lake. 

https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Processors/Intel-Core-i7-7700K-Review-Kaby-Lake-and-14nm/Clock-Clock-Kaby-Lake-Skylake-Broad

Gledate Intel kroz roza naočale. Malo više realnosti ne bi vam škodilo

 Šta hoćeš, ja sam zato imao Nehalema do izlaska Haswella bez nekih velikih gubitaka !!!

To Intel radi da ne moramo često mjenjati procove ...!!! 

Altruizam bajo moj, altruizam !

 na listi napretka po ipc-u jedino je razumno bilo uzet haswela ili sandya

https://videocardz.com/71647/intel-core-i3-8300-spotted-with-four-cores-and-eight-threads i3 wtf

Pa i vrijeme je

i3 bi trebao biti 4/8

i5 bi trebao biti 6/12

i7 8/16 na dalje...

A i9 onda neka bude enthusiast 16/32

Nista drugo nema smisla i samo se radi o prodaji muda pod bubrege

 fake

 Ja sam rekao da je 7700k do 40 posto brzi, ne zanima me to sta Sandy nema OC kao Kaby, ja gledam po max performansama koje mogu izvuc iz svakog od ta dva a tu je 7700k brzi otprilike koliko sma rekao u određenim igrama i programima klik, znaci po 30 posto brzi u Cinebenchu i Blenderu, te u nekim igrama i vise od toga kao ARMA 3 i Squad i slicne igre gladne jake i brze jezgre.

 Za tebe isto kao vrijedi kao i za ovog iznad...

 Nije si nitko nista srusio, stvar je u tome da se sagleda širi spektar price i max onoga sta mozes izvuc iz oba proca pa ond aradit usporedbe.

@Lucidius

https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/asrock_confirms_that_coffee_lake_will_not_be_supported_by_existing_intel_motherboards/1

Hoću sada da nađeš svih svojih cca 500 poruka u kojima si najavljivao da će radit na postojojećim pločama i da ih linkaš, ispričaš se ponizno i priznaš da si grešnik, tj. da si pogriješio.

 Jel ti vidis da ti je u linku 2600k na 4.7GHz sporiji 30 posto kojih spominjem od 7700k na stock taktovima?

Ne pricam o nikakvom OC vs stock, neznam odakle ti takve idiotarije 

Kaj se tiče Intel Kavovina Jezera,IPC je okvirno identičan kao i KabyLake. Dakle Intel ljudovi su zaljepili dvije dodatne CPU jezgre+previsoka cijena i to je to.

http://www.bug.hr/forum/topic/ostale-hardverske-teme/cpu-chat-tema/224306.aspx?page=294&jumpto=5428992&sort=asc&view=flat

http://www.bug.hr/forum/topic/komentari-it-vijesti/coffee-lake-procesori-imat-sest-jezgri/245374.aspx?page=1&jumpto=5224846&sort=asc&view=flat

Tek sam sad primjetil, pa Američki Microcentar sad nudi R5 1600 za 190dolara.

 Ima još primjera, da. Al kad uzmeš prosjek 20-ak je rezultat. Testove rade stranice poput anandtecha, koji znaju o čemu pričaju.

A znamo zašto je veliki skok kod ARMA-e. ARMA-a je ograničena sa memory bandwidthom, pa je tako na Broadwellu 15% brža, nego na Skylakeu radi eDRAM-a

Trust me, I have seen so much data about this. Arma is definitely more limited by bandwidth then by the CPU! That's why the performance gains / fixed lag issues through SSD's are that impressive (results you usually only see in synthetical benchmarks, but not games).Just check out this benchmark (Arma CPU/RAM/NB-Frequency overclocking comparison benchmark) and notice how dramatically minimum frames increase when increasing the systems bandwidth:
http://www.pcgamesha...ormance-689261/or read this thread:
http://www.realitymo...-arma-2-oa.htmlI was comparing Arma results for the Intel Broadwell and Intel Skylake, lately and it seems that Broadwell has about 15 % (!) more performance at the same frequency compared to Skylake when it comes to Arma III.
http://www.hardware....3-arma-iii.html

It's most likely due to the eDRAM which Intel unfortunately did not use in Skylake, but in Broadwell. Nevertheless, since Skylake can be clocked much higher there is not really that much of a difference in between this two CPU's for Arma. Though, I hope Intel will use eDRAM again in their next generation. A Kaby Lake which combines the ability of high frequencies with eDRAM would be awesome for Arma.

 http://customcombatgaming.com/forums/index.php?/topic/22955-lets-do-arma-3-benchmarks/page-3

Ovo mi je najjaca izjava Lucija heheh jesi kralj i opet si se spotakao na svoje rijeci Prvi pa Iscjedak http://www.bug.hr/forum/topic/ostale-hardverske-teme/cpu-chat-tema/224306.aspx?page=33&jumpto=5249258&sort=asc&view=flat

 Sta sam se spotako? Da su precijenjeni jesu, i to pricam odavno, al kad je i dalje to najbolje sta mozes uzet za gejming moras se pomirit sa cijenom