Company of Heroes 2

Cari? Tebi je isto igrao online ili u lanu gdje su ljudi jedni do drugih. Pa meni je COH lan bolji nego i jedan cw koji sam u zivotu odigrao. Kradem? Ja ne kradem. Odem u igraonicu koji vec imaju coh (pretpostavljam kupljen. Original.). To sto ja trosim 10 km kada se skupimo te se uopste ne tice, imam svoj budzet i mogu da si priustim. Da li mi nemamo veze sa strategijom ili ne, opet neznas. Vidim da si neprijateljski raspolozen pa kada god oces izvoli da odigramo 1v1 ili 2v2, 3v3, 4v4. Igramo vec godinu dana i siguran sam da bih barem bio lvl 7 u 1v1.

Nisam uopce neprijateljski raspolozen,nego me tvoj stav živcira.Igraš tu igru godinu dana i nisi u stanju da potrošiš dvije marke na orginal.Dobro,čovjek bi možda rekao,nemaš novaca pa ok,ali ti još bacaš neke moralne spike kako igraš dva puta tjedno pa prema tome nije potrebno kupiti orginal.Nemoj me lagati da u toj igraonici imaju orginal jer da je tako,igrao bi preko njihovog sluzbenog matchmaking servisa koji ti nadje igru za 10 sekundi,a ne bi trazio ljude preko hamacihija ili nekog slicnog servisa koji emulira LAN mrezu. I za tvoju informaciju ja je igram 5 godina i kupio sam orginal kad je kostao 50$ i bio sam lvl 18 prije pola godine 1vs1 tako da sumnjam da imas ikakve šanse.

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A few impressions from 20 minutes of PowerPoint and two playable missions:

-It is still pretty much Company of Heroes, Wehr looked very much like current Wehr.
-Overall impression: very ready, really good, graphics, well updated, so big step forward.
-Resources are a bit different, as you actually have to build your fuel or ammo points on a point captured
-Blizzards are heavy, you do not have good vision anymore and so on…really affects gameplay. Same as snow. Really slows you down.
-True sight: on the nooby level of playing two missions the first time, the effect was not too big.
-What does have a significant effect is that you have to keep your units warm. So more micro, put someone in a house here, make a fire there and so on…..busy times coming.
-You can zoom out a bit more.
-You can lose flamethrowers like shrecks
-And yes, you can capture Wehr tanks with infantry if you kill the crew only

pa hvala bogu da su se toga sjetili 

Pretpostavka, kada se pokvari dio tenka kao u originalnom cohu, posada moze odsada popravljati tenkove bez inzinjera (realno). Vasily Zatsyev to primjeti i snajperise ekipu.

Ili

Posada tenka moze izaci iz tenka. Npr ako je tenk u raspadnom stanju okruzen neprijateljem, moguce je da posada pobjegne iz tenka.

ja pretpostavljam da vise nije vazna mašinerija nego ljudstvo,pošto će vjerovatno posada tenka dobivati exp,a ne sam "tenk" kako je prije bilo,što znači da je sav fokus igre bačen na ljude,a oprema je u drugom planu.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/08/17/company-of-heroes-2-small-tweaks-make-big-differences

Uf našao još par slika i razgovora sa pressom gamespy i gamesradar

Ili jednostavno, posada bude teško ozlijeđena ili mrtva nakon primljene granate.

1. Ovo se vec nalazi u originalnom COHu?

2. Mislim da je ovo losa ideja. COH mi je bio drag zato sto nisam morao da bringem hocu li graditi 4 ili 5 kuca za resurse kao u drugim rtsovima. Osvajanje poena za resurse mi je djelovalo kao odlican koncept.

Klik za info o sljedećem hostingu ;)

I evo nesto sto trenutno znamo o CoH2

ALL VISUALS ARE DIRECT X 9 – WILL BE DIRECT X 11 IN FINAL COPY

• True-sight allows men to set up ambushes behind trees, building
o Smoke from burning vehicles and buildings, blizzards can obscure line of sight
• Weather has an effect on unit movement – blizzards are dynamically generated
o Halftrack tries to start moving but tracks just spin
o Flame throwers can blast snow to create new paths
o Half tracks are important to keep units out of blizzards and move them around quickly
• Infantry die from hypothermia DURING BLIZZARDS – thermometer icon shows body temperature. If it goes red they lose health until dead
o Counteracted by engineers building firepits, going inside unoccupied building, or against yellow or better cover
o Infantry have temperature gauge allocated to squad emblem in top right of screen allowing to minimise losses
• Capturing strategic points can be the same but alternatively you can stay in a small radius of the point and continue fighting
o Not final and may be changed in final game – when capturing a point you can choose if you want it to be fuel or munitions. Engineer builds a “dump” beside the point corresponding to the resource you want. Dump can be destroyed and changed to other resource if needs be. Enemy needs to recon your strategic points to see what points you got and what strategy you’re going for
• Vehicle operators can be killed inside whilst under heavy fire and the tank can be taken control of
o Tank crew members can pop out of vehicles to provide greater line of sight but could be killed by small arms fire
o Vehicles can be abandoned
• Infantry can vault over medium heighted obstacles
• Snipers can no longer cloak unless in cover – similar to falshirmjaegers or piat ambush
• Ice thickness is important. One tank can cross over, 2 can cross but cause cracks, 3 can cause the third one to fall in ice
o Ice also causes units to slip on it
• Squads can merge in order to replenish full numbers
• AI has been improved: scenario of computer using a bait squad to give sight for its tank
• In-game menu has changed but it is easy to pick up

Brdo informacija!! Staviti ću u dva posta, drugi ću prevesti na Hrvatski, potrudit ću se da bude što točnije.

• How will Russian units gain experience?
In order to distribute experience more effectively both Russian and German units gain experience by inflicting and receiving damage instead of only kills. The amount of experience needed to level up depends on the initial build cost the unit.

• Will there be a spectator mode ?
We’re very interested in this feature, but there is still a lot of work to do to make sure Company of Heroes 2 meets Relic’s high standards for quality. I can’t make any promises, but we’ll see what we can do.

• What has been the greatest challenge in development so far?
The original Company of Heroes was a very complex game with cutting edge graphics, destructible environments and highly detailed, historically accurate units. In making Company of Heroes 2 we had to take all of those features to the next level while also giving players something new. I believe we’ve accomplished this by setting the game in the Eastern Front and adding features like ColdTech and TrueSight to truly immerse players in the experience.

• Will the russian faction play a lot like the american faction since the wehrmacht won't change that much?
The Americans did supply the Russians with equipment, so you might see some similar vehicles and weapons. The Russians were a much different army however, with a large number of conscripted soldiers and only a limited number of weapons. We wanted to reflect this in their play style where Russian infantry units have more soldiers, allowing them to absorb more damage. The Russian T-70 and T-34 tanks are also lighter and more maneuverable that their German counterparts.

• I heard that only engineers will be able to light a fire. Is that correct?
Yes, currently engineers are the only squads that can build fire pits. This makes them invaluable when extreme cold weather conditions are encountered. We are doing a lot of playtesting though, so it may change.

• Can you tell us about the German faction we will have to play with? Will they be Ostheer? Wehrmacht? Panzer Elite? Will the Germans have their own campaign in the game?
In Company of Heroes 2 we’ll be focusing on telling the story of the Eastern Front with the Russian Army fighting off the invading Wehrmacht. This is a huge story to tell with some of the largest military confrontations in history.

• Is unit control different to original CoH?

No we want to keep the unit controls of Company of Heroes 2 as close as possible to the polished controls of the original. There will be some new controls, such as vaulting cover, but they should easily blend in with the existing controls.

• Will COH2 have mod tools?
Our community is very important to us and we are looking into supporting them with mod tools, but I don’t have any details to report at this time.

• How different will the new german army be?
Visually the German army will receive a significant upgrade with highly detailed Eastern Front uniforms. As for their play style they will be similar to the Wehrmacht from original CoH with a few new units and abilities. Both Russian and German armies will get vaulting and will be able to capture abandoned vehicles from either side.

• What is the reasoning behind the change to the resource system?
We wanted to explore more dynamic battles where players can choose their own fuel and munitions points instead of fighting over the same preset points. We are currently playtesting a few alternatives for the resource system, so it may change before we ship.

• Will squad leaders be made more distinctive in CoH 2? Or will still just be a guy with a slightly different weapon?
Each squad in Company of Heroes 2 will have a high resolution Eastern Front uniform. We currently aren’t planning on using squad leaders as that would require two more uniforms to be created for each squad. If a squad member with a special weapon is killed the weapon will automatically move to a surviving squad member so they will remain effective in combat.

• Could we imagine seeing a more functional version of the Wehrmacht officer for CoH 2?
Officers will play a long term role in CoH2, but only when we’re really satisfied with the gameplay they offer. I can’t give any specific details now, but it’s something we’re interested in.

• Will multiplayer be focused on one period like 1943-44 or will it be split up to cover several periods, like say 1941-42, 43, 44-45. For example?
We’ll be discussing multiplayer details in a future update.

• Can ammo/fuel depots be captured by the enemy? And could they provide bonuses for units fighting near them?
Ammo and fuel depots are automatically captured when the point they are on is captured. They can also be destroyed to deny their use to the enemy. Currently there aren’t any bonuses for units fighting near depots, but it’s something we’ve explored in the past. We want the resource system to be a well integrated with the armies and the map design.

• Can we expect the return of some of the Wehrmacht Voice actors ? Like the guy who did the Stormtroopers and Officer. He was AWESOME !
Due to logistics issues we weren’t able to get the same voice actors, but we’ve picked up a couple of actors of very solid caliber that players will instantly recognize from several major motion pictures. I asked our Senior Audio Designer David Renn to give us a few details about the speech recording:
David Renn: The original game speech has a great balance of realism and humor, of contextual lines and ones purely for flavor. We are committed to maintaining the same great quality and tone that the original had, and improving on it wherever possible. One of the most noticeable additions is that of female units. Multiple Soviet units have male and female versions, a first for Company of Heroes.

• Will there be a system to deal with wounded and frostbite victims (over and above the medic bunker in CoH1)?
Currently the Russian HQ can be upgraded with a Healing Aura that will return wounded infantry to full strength. German Pioneers will be able to build bunkers that can be upgraded to Medic Stations that will heal German infantry.

• Will there be custom map / worldbuilder support in COH2?
See my response about mod tools

• Will the new Truesight system finally take heights into account or just objects like buildings, walls and so on?
The Truesight system only takes objects like buildings, walls, trees and smoke into account. This allows players to effectively use tactics like flanking and ambushes. The system can handle terrain variations if we want, but we found that objects provided the most easily understood feedback for players. The default RTS camera sometimes makes it harder to judge the variety of terrain heights and slopes.

• Will the game (I hope) keep the same amount of superb quality in sounds/voices as COH did?
Our senior audio designer David Renn was able to answer this one for me:
David Renn: In terms of sound effects, we have re-done nearly every aspect – from the wind in the trees to the sounds of destruction. The weapons have all been recorded live, and the vehicle audio has been greatly improved with added behaviors and depth.

• My most important question: will there be an ANTICHEAT System?
We’ll be discussing multiplayer details in a future update.

• Will there be an auto-reinforce button like in DoW?
This is a great feature. The designers are discussing it, but they haven’t decided yet.

• -Will there be language choice (Soviets speaking Russian, and Germans, well, German)?
We’ll have to see!

• - How much research went into Uniforms in general ?
I asked Senior Artist Ian Guise to answer this one:
We tried to be accurate when possible. We researched uniforms quite extensively. We then chose uniforms that we found interesting and distinct from one another. We took some liberties to help sell unit ID and tweaked some of the colouring to help separate the two armies from one another.

• Will there be model variations so we can avoid the clone army look ?
Dave Cheong: To a certain degree. CoH2 will have randomized head variations but bodies will basically be consistent per unit type. It is a game after all and unit recognition (and distinction) is key.

• What are the strategies that will be employed to maintain the longevity of the game and retain audience attention? Will there be more expansions? Will balances be made frequently even well into a few years of the game's life?
I can’t speak to our future plans, but I think Relic’s support of original CoH speaks for itself. We released two expansions (Opposing Fronts and Tales of Valor) along with many balance updates continuing for years after original CoH was released. I think Relic’s best strategy for CoH2 will be to continue listening to the community’s feedback and supporting them however we can.

• Also, are there any plans for an official competitive league?
Nothing I can talk about at this time.

• How was the idea of TrueSight thought up, and who’s idea was it?
Our Game Director Quinn Duffy has the answer for this question:
I’ll take credit for True Sight – although we used to call it the lampshade system, because that’s how we visualized it working initially – an outer radius that would approximate your maximum sight radius and an inner radius where you could see everything (sort of simulating the ability for a unit to ‘hear’ another unit on the other side of a thin or porous object). We wanted to add a tactical layer to the game to ensure that players were able to benefit from flanking movement, or for setting up defenses, make scouting more important, and create a situation where map knowledge could benefit tactical gameplay.

• Is suppression the same as it was in CoH?
Suppression is a great feature that was introduced in original CoH. We’ll be continuing to use the same system in CoH2, but with Truesight it’s now possible to flank a heavy machine gun or block its line of sight with a smoke grenade.

• Is the tactical map making a return?
I don’t have any details on the tactical map yet, but it is being discussed by the design team.

• Is there co-op support with the campaign?
We’ll be discussing multiplayer details in a future update.

• Will there be better tutorial's than what was in vCoH?
The first few missions of the Eastern Front campaign will gradually reintroduce players to the mechanics of Company of Heroes. We’ll be doing a lot of play testing to ensure that novice and veteran CoH players are getting all of the information they need to play Company of Heroes 2. We’ll have a system where we can more readily react to issues that players are having and one that makes tutorials much more accessible.

Što se ne raspravlja u temi? Eniway novi info, o nekom liku koji je imao priliku igrati na PAX-u. Zapamtite da mnoge stvari još nisu ubačene, kao trenutno zvanje jedinica koje dolaze off map. A i stvari su sklone promjenama._{btw. tekst je predug da ga prevodim :). I on je igrao na Ruskoj strani, pa nažalost ništa konkretno o wehrmachtu :/}

I'm not a professional reporter or anything, but I'll jot down some things I noticed in my hands-on with the two missions before I crash.

Either all the upgades were unlocked, or there are no upgrades beyond the German Battle Phases.

Conscripts and Engineers are trained from the HQ. In this mission, I started with two Conscript squads, and one Combat Engineer squad. Units trained come in from behind your base, and by extention behind your base MG's protective umbrella. You can also control your units before they actually cross the boarder. This lets them come in outside of a clearly mined path. If they can attack while "off map" or not I can't tell.

Conscripts hold up surprisingly well, all things considered, and have AT grenades and Molitov [filtered]tails.

Engineers are the only Soviet squad smaller than six men barring Snipers, at four men. I'm not sure of their competency beyond "worse than Guards, better than Conscripts" to be honest. They start with the demo charge ability, the ability to toss AT grenades, and they may upgrade to the fragile, but hyper-deadly flamethrower, which absolutely wrecks basic infantry in range, but can be shot down by Snipers and entrenched basic infantry, to say nothing of MGs. Basic flamethower fare, but more pronounced. More deadly, more range, more squishy, and far, far prettier.

Forward Recon allows Snipers and Scout Vehicles to be built. I didn't get a hold of the scouting vehicle, but

Snipers are interesting. They cloak in cover and move at normal speed, as other articles have brought up. A couple intersting points that I noticed and never heard mentioned are first off, they are immune to cold. This made them HUGE in scouting out the blizzard condition, oversized map we were playing on. Second, Snipers no longer have a 100% hit rate. They miss about half their shots, though each shot can still be expected to drop a German soldier. Of course, they are putting out twice as many shots, but they are now just as fragile as regular troops, so you can't count on having both of them up, and while you should average about the same kill rate, it introduces an element of uncertainty.

Next building is the firing range, with Maxim MGs, Mortars, and AT guns. Fun facts here. The Maxim has a rather tiny firing arc and range. For having six men wheeling it around, it doesn't seem terribly effective, but only time will tell. I didn't catch any resource costs.

The Mortar is also a six man squad, and is the same 80mm caliber as the CoH1 German piece (proving Dane wrong, methinks).

The AT gun, while I didn't get it out and about, had a tooltip specifically saying that it was good against vehicles and light tanks, a far cry from the devistating PaK40 of the German side, which was the bane of my tanks' existance.

Then was the iforgotit'sname1, Producing Guards Infantry, Halftracks, and Light Tanks.

Guards Infantry are doctrinal elite infantry. Judging by the fact that there was no "regular" infantry in evidence, I would presume that the Doctrinal passive ability here overrides the basic Red Infantry. Equiped with cloaks making them more resistant to the cold, and being veteran troops, they ended up forming a good backbone once the initail flood of Conscripts had died down. They have a grenade ability that seems to have more in common with the CoH1 Grenadier grenade than the feared "pineapple nuke". They could upgrade to wield two DP LMGs, adding to their firepower in much the same LMGs on Grens work. They could also buy a pair of PTRS or PTRD rifles instead. Theoretically good against light armor and vehicles, I ended up having this unit get caught with its pants down by more prepared LMG equipped Grens. They don't seem to be dropped by either side. I've only seen Panzerfausts and flamethrowers drop. Maybe I just got unlucky, but I can't tell whether LMGs and AT rifles drop at all. They may be an inherent upgrade, meaning if one man made it back, he might be reinforced with another rifle buddy. Or he could just be SOL, what do I know?

Halftracks have the option to upgrade to quad MGs, reinforce squads, heat your troops, and infantry inside the halftrack can capture points without having to leave their cozy tin can due to the proximity capture system.

T-70 Light Tanks are fast, fun, and run circles around enemy positions, dominating the mid game in my match. Tanks have fairly rediculous ranges, reaching across into a second screen for Light Tanks. Utilizing this isn't too easy, as you still need an infantry squad or something to spot for them, but I can see this being pretty big. Tanks can enter "Recon Mode", which raises the LoS of the tank while disabling the main gun. As mentioned in previous materiel, tanks and trucks can toggle reverse mode on and off, and can be decrewed in a manner nearly identical to "Out of Control" results. A decrewed and recovered tank has such miniscule HP, the HP bar is nigh-invisible. It would take a miracle, or a lack of ANY AT weapons, to recrew a tank in combat. Tank cannon fire is effective and satisfying, and the co-axial MGs are very, very effective. They do easily as much damage as crew-served weapons, though I didn't see it supressing anyone any time soon.

The last building is a iforgotit'sname2, the tank depot, producing T34 Medium Tanks, KV1 Heavy Tanks, and the Katyusha.

The T34 is, as covered in my musings on tanks in general, a sexy, sexy machine. Dispite having less HP than I am used to in CoH, it has very effective cannon fire, even against infantry, and a coax that actually does something for a change. The T34 is a speedy little bugger, easily able to circle-strafe German PaKs, and has a RAM ability, that sounds pretty self-explanitory, along with the aforementioned reverse and recon modes.

The KV1 is a pretty low-end heavy tank. It gets killed by PaKs in a handful of shots, it gets out dueled by Panzer IV's on occasion, but, like all the tanks I encountered, it had a really, really effective cannon, and was not that much more pricy than the T34, IIRC. Downright spamabble, even.

The Katyusha is rediculous. A doctrinal unit again. (I wonder if it was replacing anything?) Firing a barrage of innacurate missiles that seem pretty much as (in)accurate at minimum range as at maximum, it unleashes a deadly hail of rockets. At least twice as many as it has rocket racks, in fact.  I mostly blame this on being a test-build, and probably the fact that I was having too much fun to notice the price tag, but the Kat seems a perhaps a bit too rediculous. I'm not complaining though, punching holes in the ice and bombarding the enemy base was a blast, both figuratively and literally, even if it was an innacurate, fickle thing.

I got a good glimpse at the GERMAN side as well. Perhaps a better glimpse than was intended by Relic and THQ, but when you put veteran players at the wheel, they ARE going to click on, and read the discriptions of, the base structures of the opposing side.

First, the basics.

The German Engineers could have flamethrowers. That is absolutely all I know about them, as I was too busy freaking out trying to bring it down to notice how many men were there, or how they were armed.

The Grenadiers are rifle-armed troops that seem to have grenades. They come in squads of four and may take Light MG42s, as they could last game, but seemed to come in pairs (see Guard Infantry for my thoughts on buying special weapons in pairs).

Panzer Grenadiers are armed with MP40s and grenades. They are four man units that can take a single(?) Panzershreck. I love the concept of a unit that have SMGs standard, without being hyper-elite troops or having to pay munitions for them.

The German MG crew is a three man unit, armed with the MG42 we all know and love. It seemed to have a narrower arc of fire from what I saw, but it supressed like no one's buisiness. 

The PaK 40 is one nasty mother. Historically armed with a 50% larger gun than the PaK 38 of CoH, and facing weaker tanks, it has massive killing power. With it's armored blast shield, it is more than a match for any armored assault head-on. Seriously, screw these things, they are amazing, but not when used against me! Circle-strafing still works, though.

The Panzer IV, as mentioned above, is a serious tank in what seems to be early 1942. It can stand its ground with a KV, and not get flattened, even coming out ahead. In the introductiory mission, it lost one on one to a T34, but I don't trust that scripted encounter over my own experiences in skirmish.

The Stug III... was present, but was fought almost exclusively by my AI ally. Sorry guys.

The intersting bits were the units listed in the base building.

The Panzerwerfer, Brummbar, Elefant and Ostwind are most certainly not confirmed, no siree. Neither is the battle escalation leveling system the Germans had in CoH. This is a pre-alpha build and anything can change at this point. Really.

Neither is mud season confirmed. Not at all.

My overall impressions were overwhelmingly positive.

Coldtech, after a few stumbleing blocks, became a surprisingly effective system in a way that dispelled my doubts about the system. Ice still seems a bit gimmicky, but it was interesting at the very least for simply being a huge, open kill-zone that ate foolish and unsupported infantry alive. The allegations that the freezing to death mechnainc would turn the game into a defensive campfest may not be unfounded, but they were certainly not evident here. Like I said, this map was HUGE for the forces we had, and any attempt to establish LoS over the entire river would be in vain. Maybe on smaller maps, but that has yet to be seen.

I noticed something interesting about deep snow. You can only move SO FAST through it, so retreating units move at the same speed as advancing units. Then freeze to death. Retreating in a blizzard is a bad idea, all things considered. Also deep snow makes roads your best friends (at least until you meet an MG)

True Sight really has to be experienced to belive the effect that it has on the over FEELING of CoH2. Dispite being on the massive press show map, the action felt closterphobic in a good way until artillery and tanks started knocking down walls. I really didn't notice  the different resource system, oddly enough. Everyone starts out with one point captured, and a fuel depot built right there, but after building a munitions point and another fuel point I wasn't lacking for resources at all. Again, probably because the map was designed to showcase the game to media who hadn't played CoH before.

Nova slika. Ja mislim da nije bila prije.

Ups, bila je. Zanemarite :)