Diablo 3

Upravo tako.. u biti ni ring nije tako skup - cak i jeftini nat ring ce davat bolje statse nego neki skuplji rare, radi +130 dex. Ali u svakom slucaju, 2 komada nat set trenutno ima najbolji vaule for money. Za ove koji stiscu thumbze dole na nat set, neka isprobaju na nekom online kalkulatoru :)

@Franjo - Ne znam ja sta tebi pase, ali dps ti je nikakav za tako visok para level... 3 vitality gema u chestu?!

Upravo gledam na AH.. nat chest, 150dex, 10 disc ima vec od 12M. Uglavnom, za nekih 30 ili manje M bi si mogao dignuti dps za preko 30k dps i pojacati survivability i movement speed. Makni lacuni i witching (statsi su im preslabi u odnosu na jeftinu kombinaciju innas/strongarm), stavi nat chest i nats boots, innas belt i innas pants + dex/vit/allres/cc rare bracers ili strongarm. Isprobaj na d3up :)

Mene vise zanima kome i kako dropaju takvi itemi. Meni vec tjednima dropa, kako je netko ovdje vec primijetio, samo brimstone.

BILIJUNE ! ! ! ! !  

Ponekad mi bude žao što i ja nisam šeikov sin  :)

Ovo je danas neki lik prodavo na trejdu, palo mu na act2 dok je (na mp2) farmo ključ, sa 310 mf-a.

Prvo sam mislio da netko trolla, ali nije bio sa AH, baš sam pogledo obe.

sad mogu uspjesno farmat mp5,sa 2H whirlwind build,sa battle rage i war cry imam 150k dpsa,800-900 AR,42k hpa i 6200 armora

kao da je to đabe,treba mi mi 30 milja za neko najvece govno od skorna da ima LS,zato i koristim whirlwind,jer mi regenerira 2% lifa svaki put kad critam,a crit mi je 50% pa se to brzo puni,a jos imam 6% LS vec pa me tesko ube

A zasto ne preprodajes stvari? Da se OK pinka zaradit.

Nisam igro već mjesec dana,al mislim da možeš čak možda i više dobiti.

Ja bi to za bolesne golde prodo,uvjek ima netko ko ce dat za ovakvo nesto,i kad preracunas brijem da bus dosta vise od 250€ zaradio

Jedan jako zanimljiv c/p sa battleneta.

When Mohaime in August 2012 wrote the open letter, responding to losing 90% of all players, Paragon, Monster Power and Infernal Machines were introduced to give remaining players "something to do", to use Mohaimes words.

However, doing so Blizzard introduced mechanisms into the game, which not only accelerated economic stagnation and saturation (i.e. game death), but also potentially will make an expansion pointless unless removed.

1 - What New Level would be Max in an Expansion?
As there is a portion of players who already now are near to maximum stat (both primary and secondary), the new maximum level would have to be so high, that secondary stats (such as crtical chance and cricical damage) would be less valuable than the new primary stat (i.e. Dex, Strenght, Intellect).

Considering 2800-3000 in primary stat, 50-60% in critical chance, 450-650% in critical damage and 50-60% in increased attack speed, the primary stat would have to be increased by so much, that current godly items (100+ primary, 90-100% cd, 9-10% cc amulets for instance) wouldn't be usable.

You ask, why should current items not be usable in an expansion? The answer is, that the less items you would need to upgrade, the faster stagnation and saturation would hit us again. The only way to make all players equal, to allow all players a level playing field, the only way to allow the economy to work again, if only for a month, would be to make all existing items obsolete.

As a rule of thumb, if you want critical chance to be reduced by 10%, critical damage to be reduced by 100%, you would need to increase primary stat by at least 750 points. Counting IAS along new maximum primary stat would have to be at least 4000, preferable 4500. As you gain +3 in primary stat per level, the new Max Level should be 100-125.

Had they not increased max cd to 100% and cc to 10% on amulets, aswell as the increased on rings, the game would not be in need of so many new levels, but because of them, it now has.

2 - How many XP for new Max Level?
To reach level 60, you need 23.5 million xp. However to reach Paragon 100, you need 10.4 billion xp; 400 times more.

Players how have 29-31% xp gem in hat, 35% HFR, 7% from follower, and some use Leorics added 30%. The average player can farm 45 million xp per hour, while the top players farm 75-90 million per hour. As such, the average player needs 230 hours to reach Paragon 100, while the top players can do it in 125 hours. One also needs to consider how much each player plays. At 2 hours a day, the average player would need just short of 4 months to reach Paragon 100, while the pro gamer if playing 8 hours a day would need 2 weeks.

This is important when looking at how many XP new Max Level would need. If the xp would be as it is now, then each level would increase XP by 7%, so level 61 would be 2.4 million xp, level 62 would be 2.57 million xp... and level 125 would be 182 million xp; or 3 billion xp. This would take the average casual player about 1-1½ month to reach and the pro gamer 1 week.

This would create a situation, where the top 5% of players would farm top levels for hours a day, making alot of money, while the casual players would level up, and once they reached the new max level, the economy would have stagnated more than it is now.

3 - The Paragon Dilemma
Paragon itself constitutes a major problem for the expansion.

One thing is that all Paragon 100 players have 300% MF/GF, which would damage the economy more than if everyone botted. Just consider how bad the chinese gold farmers were in the first month of the game, not to say the first 3 months. Now EVERYONE would have max MF/GF. This could be countered by lowered drop rates by 300%, simply to counter. But this would hurt the casual players, as they now would have harder finding items.

Another problem would be, that players more or less are forced to play their Paragon char, because he has up to 300 primary stat advantage, and 300 stat would always be worth something, even if the new ceiling would be 4500.

All the problems could be countered by removing Paragon, but then all those who grinded it would be significantly nerfed versus those who only played 1 hour a week.

All things equal, Paragon will attack the economic of the game faster than any bots or chinese farmers ever managed. Just consider how fast prices dropped at 1.0.5.; it was 90% price drop in 2-3 days.

4 - The Gold Dilemma
Already now, the top 2% of players are sitting on at least 2 billion of gold and several, if not most, have deposited euro 250 in RMAH. Already now, the top 5% of players have 500-1000 million gold. All this, while the average player has 100-200 million.

Basic rule in economy: Savings is future Spending. Hence, all that gold will affect the "new" AH/RMAH faster than oblivous players can whine "BAN BOTTERS AND FLIPPERS".

Blizzard cannot just remove all gold from the game and say "New Expansion so all start over." Wilson and Co already are talked about as the most incompetent game designers ever and the destoyers of the Diablo legacy; they cannot allow themselves more f**k ups.

So all those who think that an expansion will solve all problems with the economy, think again, because high end items will instantly be so expensive that, just as now, no bottom 95% player ever will be able to afford them.

5 - The Obsolete Skill Dilemma
Back in June, one of the leading monks in the world, Metal Monk, wrote a long theorcrafting thread about LoH vs Leech. Today such threads are useless, as dps now is so high, even for entry level players, that LoH more or less is useless next to Leeching. And as dps goes up, the more obsolete LoH will become.

Remember tanking? Barb tanks? The DH tank? Remember Storm Shield? No one uses shield anymore; well maybe on HC, but on SC Shields and items giving block are obsolete.

Remember MF? Remember Gems and does anyone use anything but Prime Stat gem and 100% CD / 18% Life / 31% XP these days?

Remember crafting? There are 92 rare designs, only the glove design has a chance of giving a usable item. None of the legendary designs are usable.

Diablo 3 has already now made a great many mechanisms and game details obsolete, and more will follow.

6 - Will the Expansion only be 1 month of additional gameplay?
One can argue against my assumptions, and that is fair, but one cannot argue against that unless all current items are made obsolete, new items wont be as attractive to farm after, one can not argue against the damaging effect Paragon will have on an expansion.

I have previously said, that the game needs a complete make-over, because unless it happends, the expansion will just be one month of additional game play and that will not save Diablo 3 as game.

One such need make-over and addition would be Ladder, initially after 2 months, then per 3 months. This would level playing field some, but it would not change that the economy of the game would be in ruins after the first month. But sadly I don't see a Ladder introduced. Blizzard could have done it with 1.0.4. but chose not to.

Another addition would be Bind On Equip items. However that will sadly never happend because of RMAH. But BoE items would be such an vital part to secure health economy.

 Hopefully the way the game is going will change Mohaime and he will once again write an open letter.
                               

C/P je cool, ima lik pravo...

igra je postala dosadna, puno stvari je beskorisno, zna se što valja, ostalo je sve šrot, baca se odmah na pod niti ne uzima, Rare itemi identificiraš ih dnevno recimo 200 komada, možda za jedan možeš dobiti 500k, ostalo te sram i kod vendora otići, i to čak ako igraš i na MP7, osim ako imaš neke sreće pa ti baš dobar item dopadne. Ali to je rijetko.

Baca se plaviš i bijelih i sivih i beskorisnih itema na veliko, to su trebali s različitom težinom izbaciti i da na inferno toga više nema, tko to još skuplja?

Ma puno nejasnoća ima, grafika je super, fizika razvaljuje sve ove nove igre (torch, path of exile....) jednostavno se ne mogu mjeriti s garfikom i fizikom, a makar da ti iz blizzara uzmu neke njihove ideje, iako je sad već kasno, kao stavljanje socketa na iteme, tree of skill da se izgubiš u njima, da lika možeš kreirati kako ti hoćeš.

U diablu imaš sve zadano i predicirano,a na tebi je samo ili uzmi ili ostavi.

O danas je bio solidan dan.. zmaj EraserHead i ja smo bacili jedan run na MP6 cijeli act 3 on je dobio ako se dobro sjećam 5 legendi ja 3.

Od moje tri legendje dva kamenčića i jedne Ice Climbers koje sam na Trade chatu odmah utopio za 12 milja :)..

ja sam danas nadobudni išao na kraftanje rukavica, i od 50 komada, pogodite koliko sam dobrih napravio :)

ugalavnom mislim da sam troje stavio na AH, do 350k cijene, ono samo da nešto vratim, potrošio sam preko 5M i dobio sam xxxxxxx ništa

bome,zamjenio sam skorn i izgubio sam vise od 20k dpsa,a ma,dobio sam ls i farmam lagano,ugl dobio sam neki ring:100 strenght,83dex,85 vitality,11% life,15% extra gold from monsters,44% crit dmg i 4,5 chance,za koliko da stavim,nemogu nac nis slicno na AH,neki puno losiji se prodaju za puno pa nemam pojma vise

Malo pretrazi ovu temu, ako ti se netko u medjuvremenu ne javi, ali mislim da su decki spominjali da ima nekih problema sa vip-om.