Windows 8 i 8.1 - općenito

To ti je sve ok.  Ti slobodno makni sve apk koje ti netrebaju a da su došle sa windows 8.1.  Nekad win trgovina nije dostupna pa malo zezaju aplikacije prilikom downloada ili instalacija.  Makar se ti uredno ulogiras u windowse sa microsoft računom, svejedno se nekad desi da se ne odradi i ostatak posla prema live ms servisima.,,zato si povremeno pogledaj napredne opcije iz charm bara na desnoj strani ekrana, a tam si i detalje razne podesi. Npr ja isključim da se ništa automatikom ne pokreće, pa onda onemogucim da se bilo kaj automatizmom trpa na one cloud.....

Riješio tek reinstalacijom OS-a. Uzrok? Na kraju - BitDefender!!

Pitao sam na temi o ispravnosti hard diskova, al možda će ovdje netko prije znati odgovor.

HDD alati vele da je sve ok sa diskom, a win check ponekad izbaci ovo :

Chkdsk was executed in scan mode on a volume snapshot.  

Checking file system on C:

Stage 1: Examining basic file system structure ...

   Found 0x1 clusters allocated to file "\Windows\Prefetch\VDS.EXE-F11BF333.pf <0xb,0x616f>" at offset "0x7" marked as free

     ... repaired online.

Attribute record of type 0x80 and instance tag 0x4 is cross linked

starting at 0x118b7b for possibly 0x1 clusters.

   Found corrupt basic file structure for "\ProgramData\Microsoft\Crypto\RSA\MachineKeys\178e6841c00781cf4aeb054c98976481_7f398a72-44e2-4fa1-bc1a-3410ab1021fb <0x6,0xc4b6>"

     ... repaired online.

   Found 0x1 clusters allocated to file "\ProgramData\Microsoft\Crypto\RSA\MachineKeys\dcab78a653572433ac4878854c94460d_7f398a72-44e2-4fa1-bc1a-3410ab1021fb <0xd,0xcd5d>" at offset "0" marked as free

     ... repaired online.

   Found 0x1 clusters allocated to file "\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Sqm\Sessions\{8AE02913-4A44-4470-E46A-40C30E9E2D73}_5.psqm <0x6,0xcd73>" at offset "0" marked as free

     ... repaired online.

Attribute record of type 0x80 and instance tag 0x4 is cross linked

starting at 0x118b7a for possibly 0x1 clusters.

   Found corrupt basic file structure for "\ProgramData\Microsoft\Crypto\RSA\MachineKeys\7f665ddb2410b20dae2b21d0b382860b_7f398a72-44e2-4fa1-bc1a-3410ab1021fb <0x4,0xcd80>"

     ... repaired online.

Attribute record of type 0x80 and instance tag 0x3 is cross linked

starting at 0x4b15f7 for possibly 0x1 clusters.

   Found corrupt basic file structure for "\Users\josip_000\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Application Shortcuts\Microsoft.BingWeather_8wekyb3d8bbwe\App.lnk <0x3,0xd44c>"

     ... repaired online.

Attribute record of type 0x80 and instance tag 0x5 is cross linked

starting at 0x19ce88 for possibly 0x10 clusters.

   Found corrupt basic file structure for "\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download\8b025498241fc86ef7d214aeeaa5d145\Abm_69B82582AA91F4077AB85231104281433AC230CE.cab <0x7,0xd44d>"

     ... repaired online.

Attribute record of type 0x80 and instance tag 0x4 is cross linked

starting at 0x118cf8 for possibly 0x7 clusters.

   Found corrupt basic file structure for "\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\AppRepository\Microsoft.SkypeApp_2014.428.1159.3489_neutral_~_kzf8qxf38zg5c.xml <0x3,0xd45f>"

     ... repaired online.

Attribute record of type 0x80 and instance tag 0x1 is cross linked

starting at 0x118d00 for possibly 0x4 clusters.

   Found corrupt basic file structure for "\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download\00a5a8877dc25dab41e06878264ef853\package_24_for_kb2939153~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.3.1.1.cat <0x4,0xf155>"

     ... repaired online.

   File "\Users\josip_000\AppData\Local\Packages\WinStore_cw5n1h2txyewy\LocalState\Cache\0\0-Search-https???next-services.apps.microsoft.com?search?6.3.9600-0?776?hr-HR_hr-HR.hr?m?HR?c?HR?il?hr-HR?cp?10012055?query?cid?0?pf?1?pc?0?pt?x64?af?0?lf?0?s?0?2?pn?0?pgc?-1?phrase=pc%20companion.dat <0x6,0x2472>" and file "\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download\8b025498241fc86ef7d214aeeaa5d145\Abm_69B82582AA91F4077AB85231104281433AC230CE.cab <0x7,0xd44d>" both own logical clusters [0x19ce88, 0x19ce98)

     ... queued for offline repair.

   File "\Users\josip_000\AppData\Local\Packages\WinStore_cw5n1h2txyewy\AC\INetCache\LJV08FR9\Icon.8536[1].png <0x9,0x6168>" and file "\ProgramData\Microsoft\Crypto\RSA\MachineKeys\7f665ddb2410b20dae2b21d0b382860b_7f398a72-44e2-4fa1-bc1a-3410ab1021fb <0x4,0xcd80>" both own logical cluster 0x118b7a

     ... queued for offline repair.

   File "\Users\josip_000\AppData\Local\Packages\WinStore_cw5n1h2txyewy\AC\INetCache\LJV08FR9\Icon.8536[1].png <0x9,0x6168>" and file "\ProgramData\Microsoft\Crypto\RSA\MachineKeys\178e6841c00781cf4aeb054c98976481_7f398a72-44e2-4fa1-bc1a-3410ab1021fb <0x6,0xc4b6>" both own logical cluster 0x118b7b

     ... queued for offline repair.

   File "\Windows\Prefetch\VDS.EXE-F11BF333.pf <0xb,0x616f>" and file "\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\AppRepository\Microsoft.SkypeApp_2014.428.1159.3489_neutral_~_kzf8qxf38zg5c.xml <0x3,0xd45f>" both own logical clusters [0x118cf8, 0x118cff)

     ... queued for offline repair.

   File "\Windows\Prefetch\VDS.EXE-F11BF333.pf <0xb,0x616f>" and file "\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download\00a5a8877dc25dab41e06878264ef853\package_24_for_kb2939153~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.3.1.1.cat <0x4,0xf155>" both own logical clusters [0x118d00, 0x118d02)

     ... queued for offline repair.

   File "\Program Files\WindowsApps\Microsoft.Adera_1.0.0.4957_x86__8wekyb3d8bbwe\Episodes\Episode1\Audio\Vo\Dialog\gl-ES\Sc2_CrashSite_30_Jane.wav <0x1,0x9c75>" and file "\Users\josip_000\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Application Shortcuts\Microsoft.BingWeather_8wekyb3d8bbwe\App.lnk <0x3,0xd44c>" both own logical cluster 0x4b15f7

     ... queued for offline repair.

  388352 file records processed.                              File verification completed.

  3987 large file records processed.                                                               

  0 bad file records processed.                    

Stage 2: Examining file name linkage ...

   Found an unneeded link ($FILE_NAME: "S-1-5-~1.REC") in index "$I30" of directory "\Program Files\WindowsApps\Microsoft.SkypeApp_2.8.0.1001_x86__kzf8qxf38zg5c\microsoft.system.package.metadata <0x1a,0x51d>"

     ... repaired online.

   Found an unneeded link ($FILE_NAME: "MSNPAR~1.JS") in index "$I30" of directory "\Program Files\WindowsApps\Microsoft.SkypeApp_2.8.0.1001_x86__kzf8qxf38zg5c\js\notifications\parsers <0x4,0xd46c>"

     ... repaired online.

   Found an unneeded link ($FILE_NAME: "MSNSDG~1.JS") in index "$I30" of directory "\Program Files\WindowsApps\Microsoft.SkypeApp_2.8.0.1001_x86__kzf8qxf38zg5c\js\notifications\parsers <0x4,0xd46c>"

     ... repaired online.

   Found an unneeded link ($FILE_NAME: "S-1-5-~1.REC") in index "$I30" of directory "\Program Files\WindowsApps\Microsoft.SkypeApp_2014.428.1159.3489_neutral_~_kzf8qxf38zg5c\microsoft.system.package.metadata <0x3,0xd571>"

     ... repaired online.

  456718 index entries processed.                             Index verification completed.

                                                                                           Found 2 lost files (\Users\josip_000\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Application Shortcuts\Microsoft.BingWeather_8wekyb3d8bbwe\App.lnk <0x3,0xd44c>, ...); requesting reconnection to index "$I30" of directory "\??\C:\found.000"

     ... queued for offline repair.

   Found 2 missing entries (\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download\8b025498241fc86ef7d214aeeaa5d145\Abm_69B82582AA91F4077AB85231104281433AC230CE.cab <0x7,0xd44d>, ...) in index "$I30" of directory "\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download\8b025498241fc86ef7d214aeeaa5d145 <0x4,0xc02a>"

     ... queued for offline repair.

Stage 3: Examining security descriptors ...

Security descriptor verification completed.

  34190 data files processed.                       CHKDSK is verifying Usn Journal...

Usn Journal verification completed.

Windows has found problems and some were fixed online;

the remaining problems must be fixed offline.

Please run chkdsk /spotfix to fix the issues.

 126899199 KB total disk space.

  36688796 KB in 187466 files.

   129460 KB in 34186 indexes.

   460099 KB in use by the system.

   65536 KB occupied by the log file.

  89620844 KB available on disk.

    4096 bytes in each allocation unit.

  31724799 total allocation units on disk.

  22405211 allocation units available on disk.

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Stage 1: Examining basic file system structure ...

Some clusters occupied by attribute of type 0x80 and instance tag 0x4

in file 0xc4b6 is already in use.

Deleting corrupt attribute record (128, "")

from file record segment 50358.

Some clusters occupied by attribute of type 0x80 and instance tag 0x4

in file 0xcd80 is already in use.

Deleting corrupt attribute record (128, "")

from file record segment 52608.

Some clusters occupied by attribute of type 0x80 and instance tag 0x3

in file 0xd44c is already in use.

Deleting corrupt attribute record (128, "")

from file record segment 54348.

Some clusters occupied by attribute of type 0x80 and instance tag 0x5

in file 0xd44d is already in use.

Deleting corrupt attribute record (128, "")

from file record segment 54349.

Some clusters occupied by attribute of type 0x80 and instance tag 0x4

in file 0xd45f is already in use.

Deleting corrupt attribute record (128, "")

from file record segment 54367.

Some clusters occupied by attribute of type 0x80 and instance tag 0x1

in file 0xf155 is already in use.

Deleting corrupt attribute record (128, "")

from file record segment 61781.

Stage 2: Examining file name linkage ...

The file reference 0x800000000d44e of index entry S-1-5-~1.REC of index $I30

with parent 0x51d is not the same as 0x700000000d44e.

Deleting index entry S-1-5-~1.REC in index $I30 of file 1309.

The file reference 0x500000000d44c of index entry MSNPAR~1.JS of index $I30

with parent 0xd46c is not the same as 0x300000000d44c.

Deleting index entry MSNPAR~1.JS in index $I30 of file 54380.

The file reference 0x500000000d44f of index entry MSNSDG~1.JS of index $I30

with parent 0xd46c is not the same as 0x400000000d44f.

Deleting index entry MSNSDG~1.JS in index $I30 of file 54380.

The file reference 0x800000000d44d of index entry S-1-5-~1.REC of index $I30

with parent 0xd571 is not the same as 0x700000000d44d.

Deleting index entry S-1-5-~1.REC in index $I30 of file 54641.

CHKDSK is scanning unindexed files for reconnect to their original directory.

Recovering orphaned file ABM_69~1.CAB (54349) into directory file 49194.

Recovering orphaned file Abm_69B82582AA91F4077AB85231104281433AC230CE.cab (54349) into directory file 49194.

Recovering orphaned file ABM_69~1.CAB (54349) into directory file 49194.

Recovering orphaned file Abm_69B82582AA91F4077AB85231104281433AC230CE.cab (54349) into directory file 49194.

Recovering orphaned file 9E7C34~1.DAT (54350) into directory file 49194.

Recovering orphaned file 9e7c34103eea3252024ccae216bf97627931a8a2EXT.dat (54350) into directory file 49194.

Recovering orphaned file 9E7C34~1.DAT (54350) into directory file 49194.

Recovering orphaned file 9e7c34103eea3252024ccae216bf97627931a8a2EXT.dat (54350) into directory file 49194.

CHKDSK is recovering remaining unindexed files.

Stage 3: Examining security descriptors ...

Inserting data attribute into file 50358.

Inserting data attribute into file 52608.

Inserting data attribute into file 54348.

Inserting data attribute into file 54349.

Inserting data attribute into file 54367.

Inserting data attribute into file 61781.

- Opiši kako gasiš komp.

 -nema 'normalnog', MS je odlučio da je normalno hyber... ako ne promjeniš postavke. To je povezano i s raznim trikovima kao quickboot, bios i sl.

 -brže se pali, zato jer se zapravo ne pali, kao standby. (uz par sitnica kao boot/post/detect hwa i sl. kojima se ne moraš zamarati, bar tako radi većina juezera po želji MSa, Applea i ostalih). Reklamirano kao štednja struje, mada zapravo troši, dok ugašen ne troši, zanimljivo ili besmisleno, zavisi koji su tvoji filozofski pogledi.

Power tipci na kućištu možeš dodijeliti funkciju Hibernate, Sleep, ShutDown.

Provjeri u Power Options -> choose what the power buttons do.

Dobio sam novu maticnu (ovu) i spojio sam sve kao na proslom kompu. Tako sa imam dva sata hdd ovaj drugi mi ne zeli ocitati. Nema ga ni pod Disk Management. Niti u biosu ga nema za odabrati. hmm mozda nesto trebam promijeniti u biosu a neznam. pomozite hvala

EDIT nema mi ni sleepa a ukljucen mi je u options

Kad se mijenja MB preporučljivo je reinstalirati OS.

Nešto me muči već od samog početka. Uglavnom ne događa se uvijek. Laptopu često treba da "prokuha" neku banalnu radnju u windowsima. Recimo ponekad idem izbrisati neku sliku/fajl sa dektopa. Klikneš po njoj desnim mišem...i čekam po 10 sekundi da se pojavi izbornik sa svim mogućim radnjama, među kojima je i briši. Nakon toga, mogu brisat po desktopu koliko me volja i izbornik se u trenu pojavi.  Znači samo prvi puta zavlada zastoj.  Isto tako kada kliknem desnim mišem star u lijevom kutu i želim izbornik...kuha-kuha-kuha,a kasnije sve ide iz prve.

Kao da ove i slične radnje nisu "spremne" u nekom kešu ili kako to već radi.  Kada ih jednom pokrenem, one su spremne i rade bezprijekorno satima dok je računalo upaljeno.  Skoro sve...recimo dvoklik nekog omiljenog foldera...kuha 6-7 sekundi  dok ga otvori prvi puta, kasnije skače bez problema odmah.

Pc je uredan i nije zatrpan. Radi bezprijekorno,samo primjetim ovu pojavu kada izvodim ove radnje po prvi puta nakon paljenja pc-a. Čak mi nekad i firefox napravi not responding.  Palio sam i gasio onaj turbo mod,da sve jezgre stalno rade pod punim naponom,ali nije to. Mislio sam da zato kasnije ragira.

Ima netko savjet?

Eh baš to. Poznato mi je i sa sedmice. Ali ovdje mi je to dosta izraženije. Dobro se zna vrtiti onaj plavi prsten. I sad, nije to stanje da je pc tek bootan 3-4 minuta.  To samo čeka da ga ja prvi put kliknem, može i nakon 10 sati surfanja...pođem na MyComputer folder i čekam 8-10 sekundi da ga otvori. I kad uletim u njega, sve leti, gdje god krenem. Kasnije mi je dostupan u trenu.

Vjerojatno ima negdje to pojašnjeno i ima li neka poluhibernacijska opcija da se ta izražajnost smanji?

-nema, jer je različito za svaku MBO/proizvođač... tj BIOS-UEFI. Mada je to sve zapravo jednako. Opcija npr quickboot i sve ostale koje mogu biti povezane npr s P&P detectom HWa odnosno OSom treba pročitati u manualu MBO i podesiti. Uobičajeno pravilo, prvi boot je noramalan, nakon inicijalnog prepoznavanja hardwarea npr RAMa, CPUa .. to se može preskočiti (istovremeno na to se mora misliti kad se nešto mijenja na konfiguraciji, obavezan reset BIOSa).

Time se štedi BIOSovski dio boottimea, ali ne OSovski, tj OS kao 8.1 je 'svjestan' UEFIja i može brže inicijalizirati HW ili prikriti-preskočiti postupak (bar redosljed) i tad se dobije dojam bržeg boota (ali ne znači i svih resursa za rad).

Ono što se u OSu može osjetiti je disk. HDD-SSD i konkretne brzine (razlike između bržih-sporijih, jednako kao razlike između CPUa, VGA..) i količine RAMa (ako je RAMa malo, tad je svaki sitem spor). Dali je npr uključen AHCI ili neki drugi mod, npr RAID obično duže inicijalizira, pa isprada sporiji kad se mjeri boottime.

Ovaj dio bi teoretski mogao biti jednak (teoretski, da su npr sve MBO jednake, svi CPU, RAMovi ..) sad dolazi 'juzerski' dio gdje se razlike povečavaju. Npr čist OS ili natrpan svim mogućim AVima i mlawareima, utilsima itd. To naravno direktno utječe na boottime. Loader-yogurta, sigurnosne postavke, mreža, autoupdate itd. Pa do tog dal netko ima npr HPov printer (mastadontni bloatware soft s npr online narudžbom tinte.. koji od verzije do verzije može raditi mrežne probleme..).

Brz PC je brz sa svakim OSom i sa svakim BIOSom (ako baš ne postavimo neku 'kočnicu'). Recimo, normalan SSD će uvjek bootati dvostruko brže od HDDa, bez trikova.

(uz nastavak CC..)

 -čiščenje je također uzrok takvih usporavanja, jer cache ... ugl nakon CCa sistem mora rebuildati dosta počišćenog. Previše higijene može dati kontra rezultat. Ovaj slučaj ne mora biti takav, može biti bilo što drugo, samo kao jedno od objašnjenja...

 -čudiš se, no tako je to, MS je tako odlučio i bez da znaš, koristiš hyber... Jer je MS zaključio da je to bolje za juzera. Laptop se možda povremeno sam ugasi (baterija) i tad vidiš vrijeme nula dana.. obično je češći restart zbog nadogradnje cca 1 tjedno.

Može li mi netko objasniti dali je zbilja potrebno čistiti regystry u windowsima ? I dali su alati koje ljudi masovno koriste poput ccleanera,asc i glaryja zbilja potrebni i dali ubrzavaju rad windowsa? ili su sasvim dovoljni windows cleanup i windows defrag? 

nema potrebe za većinu korisnika, jedino ako imaš neki specifičan problem s nekim programom.

Svi ovi automatski cleaneri su nepotrebni jer ne ubrzavaju rad računala, što je na kraju i njihova namjena