U Švedskoj otkriveno najveće nalazište rijetkih ze

Hvala na korektnom prevodu ovaj puta :-).

Nisam bas siguran da ce uspjeti dobiti koncesiju za rudarenje. Naime, nalaziste se nalazi na podrucju na kojem obitavaju Eskimi koji se bave uzgojem irvasa. U slucaju da doske do eksploatacije, morace preseliti autohtone stanovnike, a to je u ovom trenutku osjetljiva tema.

 Nisam stručnjak, ali u poslednje vreme se javljaju indicije da "retki zemni metali" zapravo nisu tako retki, već da se zapravo zemlje osim Kine do sada nisu posebno potrudile da ih pronađu, a još manje da ih iskopavaju. Ovo će se prilično izvesno promeniti.

@uuY

Mješaš kruške i jabuke.

Jedna je stvar....

E, druže kaj kada se gradi hidroelektrana, primjerice? Kaj onda?

Kada treba neka dolina biti potopljena, neko mjesto? Ti ljudi dobiju zamjenski smještaj, te elektrana može raditi.

Rad neke elektrane, nije dobar za mali dio ljudi, al' zato jest, za veliki dio ljudi, koji dobiju električnu enegriju.

Druga je stvar...

Kada uslijed dogovorenih ratova dolazi do tzv. humanih preseljenja i tzv. razmjena teritorija.

Moj stav vezano za to je jasan. Nije svakako na liniji nacionalista.

Ak' te baš zanima pogledaj moje postve vezano za takve teme.

Al' to nije tema. Ne želim o tome.

Nije dovoljno što proteklih stoljeća pretežno razni europski narodi kolju, siluju i pljačkaju što po Europi, što po Aziji, Africi, Australiji, Sjevernoj i Južnoj Americi, što im je omogućilo prosperitet, nego bi sad trebalo i tamo neke nebitne Eskime protjerati, zbog naravno daljnjeg prosperiteta Europljana.

Nije toliko davna prošlost, 1958. godina, ljudski zoo u Belgiji:

Možda bi tako u 2023. trebali i s Eskimima, ali malo modernije, uz recimo reklamu u pozadini koja glasi "Bug nadmoćno rula".

Stara vijest.

Ona links ekipa iz Možemo i SDP bi to sigurno kvalitetno riješili. 

Hm, za trollove, dežurne dušebrižnike, i ostale...

Evo, Zakon o izvlaštenju i određivanju naknade.

Vrlo jednostavno.

nema švedska tolike zalihe koliko dr. kongo ima radno sposobne nejači i šmrkavaca sitnog zuba 

Jel se vec cuje zvuk demokracije kako pocinje da rudari ?

Svi su humani, no bez problema koriste masu proizvoda koje je moguće proizvesti isključivo jer se krše ljudska prava, a to uključuje i (ponekad prisilno) rad djece diljem svijeta.

Treba li izvlastiti domorodce zbog rijetkih metala? Što se mene tiče, ne, mislim da možemo bez toga. No toliko se puta to već dogodilo, i puno gore, no kladim se da vas to nikad nije spriječilo u kupovini novog mobitela i električnih automobila (https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2016/01/child-labour-behind-smart-phone-and-electric-car-batteries/).

Osobama kojima takve stvari zaista smetaju nisu na ovom forumu. Muka mi od licemjernog moraliziranja.

on topic..

While they are hailing this as a deposit of REEs what it most likely is is a greenwashing by the Swedish state, and LKAB to more easily sell the public on more iron mining, as this is really just yet another iron ore that happens to have a high content of REE. Shockingly high to be honest, almost enough to make me a bit skeptical that they hadn’t misplaced a decimal in the press release.

The major iron ore deposits that are mined in the Kiruna area, Kirunavaara, Malmberget and so on are what are known as iron-oxide apatite deposits. These occur in other places in Sweden, including central Sweden, Grängesberg, Blötberget to name a couple, and in the world. They are rich in, well, iron, as well as the mineral apatite, which containes abundant phosphorus. Phosphate minerals like apatite have a habit of acting as sort of a vacuum for REEs, enriching them in thes iron ores. These deposits also contain other REE minerals, xenotime, monazite, allanite.

Now why do I suggest that this is greenwashing? Well REEs are a hot topic right now due to being metals that are critical in transitioning to green technology, as well as other high tech uses. The currently mined iron oxide apatite mines up right next door to this new ore body also are rich in REE. Not as rich, but they come out to be about 0.07 percent on average in these ores, but the sheer volume of ore means that the potential tonnage is high. But they aren't hailed in the media as a harbinger of European REE independance.

Now, apatite and its phosphorus is not wanted in iron, so when the iron ore is crushed and enriched on site, it produces a waste sand known as tailings, which are then dumped in ponds near to the mine. The tailings are enriched in the apatite and other REE rich minerals, as the iron has been taken out.

Just the tailings pond in Kiruna, which amount to 76 million tonnes of tailings (as of 2019) have been measured to contain 0.12% REE. Pretty close to what is reported from this new deposit. Combined with other tailings repositories in the area, it is potentially hundreds of thousands of tonnes of REE just sitting there, ready to go more or less, already mined and crushed. They could easily be exploiting that resource if they were serious about REE production. To be fair, there are projects working on it, but it is still small scale pilot projects.

But they don't get splashy international headlines because like I said, I doubt this is really about them hot to mine REE. It is because they want to get at the easy to extract, easy to process iron fast, so the Swedish government makes a big announcement, to sell this as an REE deposit and try and get mining it faster, and wrapping it up in a big green bow to try and make the environmentalists and the Sami keep quiet.

Eto ode i Laponija u vražju mater! Zbilja treba neka katastrofa da nas sve potaraca, fuj!

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