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Imam dvije particije na hard disku. Na C mi je instaliran XP Pro. Na drugoj particiji (D) drzim podatke, dokumente, glazbu, video , itd.. Na toj drugoj particiji sam nedavno instalirao ubuntu 8.04 (pomocu wubija). Prvoj particiji mogu normalno pristupati kada se nalazim u Ubuntuu, medutim nemogu pristupaiti drugoj. Postoji li ikakav nacin ? Molio bih objašnjenje. Hvala unaprjed.

 
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Trebaš nam napisati više informacija:

a) u kojem je "formatu" druga particija (pretpostavljam NTFS)?

b) postoji li na istoj nekakva enkripcija (pretpostavljam da ne)?

c) c/p ispisa sljedece naredbe dok je uneseš u terminal: fdisk -l (usput, koliko je velika ta 2. particija)

 

...pa se čujemo Cool

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Obje particije su u NTFS-u, ne postoji nikakva enkripcija, druga particija je velika 110 GB,  ima 40 GB slobodnog prostora.

 

Usage: fdisk [-b SSZ] [-u] DISK     Change partition table
       fdisk -l [-b SSZ] [-u] DISK  List partition table(s)
       fdisk -s PARTITION           Give partition size(s) in blocks
       fdisk -v                     Give fdisk version
Here DISK is something like /dev/hdb or /dev/sda
and PARTITION is something like /dev/hda7
-u: give Start and End in sector (instead of cylinder) units
-b 2048: (for certain MO disks) use 2048-byte sectors

 
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E, sorry što nisam jasnije gore napisao:
ono kod fdisk nije slovo I niti brojka 1, već malo slovo L ;-)

Možeš odmah ovo (doslovno c/p ako nisi siguran koje je koje slovo):
fdisk -l | grep NTFS
I sad možeš odmah ručno mount-ati (nema u našem za tu riječ dobar prijevod... zajahati? :-P )
Uglavnom, drugu particiju koju ti ispiše zapiši njen zaziv, oblika /dev/sda2 (ili nekog drugog), možeš je prepoznati po veličini (ako ti je veća od C:) - gledaš "Blocks" u ispisu gornje naredbe (više blokova - više prostora, u pravilu). Npr. ispis izgleda ovako nešto:

[root@thinkpad ~]# fdisk -l | grep NTFS
/dev/sda1 * 1    1147 123452+   5 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda2 * 1148 1912 6144862+ 7 HPFS/NTFS

i ti si zapišeš ovo /dev/sda2.
Sad napravi direktorij:

sudo mkdir /mnt/documents

I u njega mountaš gornju particiju ovako:
sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda2 /mnt/documents

  I sad provjeri u nekom file browser-u (Nautilus) da li se sadržaj te (D:) particije nalazi na gornjoj lokaciji (/mnt/documents). Trebalo bi ukoliko je gornja naredba prošla bez greške, ukoliko nije - c/p ispis te greške ovdje.  Cool

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Poruka je uređivana zadnji put ned 6.7.2008 13:58 (4ndY).
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Mozda negdje grjesim nisam siguran, no kada upisem fdisk -l u terminal ništa se ne dogodi samo prjede u novi red.

 
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Jako neobično... to upisuješ s Ubuntu-a koji je instaliran na taj HDD?

 

Probaj još ovaj program (iz terminala jasno):

sudo parted, pa u njemu upišeš print all (s quit izlaziš)

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Ta naredba mi radi i izbacila mi je sljedeće

 

GNU Parted 1.7.1
Using /dev/sda
Welcome to GNU Parted! Type 'help' to view a list of commands.
(parted) print all                                                       

Disk /dev/sda: 160GB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
Partition Table: msdos

Number  Start   End     Size    Type      File system  Flags
 1      32.3kB  42.0GB  42.0GB  primary   ntfs         boot
 2      42.0GB  160GB   118GB   extended                   
 5      42.0GB  160GB   118GB   logical   ntfs             


Warning: Unable to open /dev/fd0 read-write (Read-only file system).  /dev/fd0
has been opened read-only.

I da Ubuntu je instaliran na hard, znaci nije live cd.

 

EDIT

Uspjela mi je sada i ona naredba fdisk -l

pa cu i nju zaljepit, nekakvu gresku mi javlja.

 

fdisk -l
Error: Unable to open /dev/fd0 - unrecognised disk label.                 

(parted) fdisk -l                                                         
  check NUMBER                             do a simple check on the file system
  cp [FROM-DEVICE] FROM-NUMBER TO-NUMBER   copy file system to another partition
  help [COMMAND]                           prints general help, or help on
        COMMAND
  mklabel LABEL-TYPE                       create a new disklabel (partition
        table)
  mkfs NUMBER FS-TYPE                      make a FS-TYPE file system on
        partititon NUMBER
  mkpart PART-TYPE [FS-TYPE] START END     make a partition
  mkpartfs PART-TYPE FS-TYPE START END     make a partition with a file system
  move NUMBER START END                    move partition NUMBER
  name NUMBER NAME                         name partition NUMBER as NAME
  print [free|NUMBER|all]                  display the partition table, a
        partition, or all devices
  quit                                     exit program
  rescue START END                         rescue a lost partition near START
        and END
  resize NUMBER START END                  resize partition NUMBER and its file
        system
  rm NUMBER                                delete partition NUMBER
  select DEVICE                            choose the device to edit
  set NUMBER FLAG STATE                    change the FLAG on partition NUMBER
  toggle [NUMBER [FLAG]]                   toggle the state of FLAG on partition
        NUMBER
  unit UNIT                                set the default unit to UNIT
  version                                  displays the current version of GNU
        Parted and copyright information
  check NUMBER                             do a simple check on the file system
  cp [FROM-DEVICE] FROM-NUMBER TO-NUMBER   copy file system to another partition
  help [COMMAND]                           prints general help, or help on
        COMMAND
  mklabel LABEL-TYPE                       create a new disklabel (partition
        table)
  mkfs NUMBER FS-TYPE                      make a FS-TYPE file system on
        partititon NUMBER
  mkpart PART-TYPE [FS-TYPE] START END     make a partition
  mkpartfs PART-TYPE FS-TYPE START END     make a partition with a file system
  move NUMBER START END                    move partition NUMBER
  name NUMBER NAME                         name partition NUMBER as NAME
  print [free|NUMBER|all]                  display the partition table, a
        partition, or all devices
  quit                                     exit program
  rescue START END                         rescue a lost partition near START
        and END
  resize NUMBER START END                  resize partition NUMBER and its file
        system
  rm NUMBER                                delete partition NUMBER
  select DEVICE                            choose the device to edit
  set NUMBER FLAG STATE                    change the FLAG on partition NUMBER
  toggle [NUMBER [FLAG]]                   toggle the state of FLAG on partition
        NUMBER
  unit UNIT                                set the default unit to UNIT
  version                                  displays the current version of GNU
        Parted and copyright information
(parted)

Poruka je uređivana zadnji put ned 6.7.2008 10:20 (Kizmar).
 
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Prvo, primjeti da ti ovaj fdisk -l ipak ne radi (naredbu si napisao unutar parted programa, a parted nije prepoznao naredbu, pa je ispisao svoj Help). Možda bi ti radilo ako upišeš: fdisk -l /dev/sda

No dobro, iz parteda si dobio informaciju koju si trebao:
Druga particija (D:) ti se službeno nalazi na /dev/sda, i to pod brojem 5, odnosno: /dev/sda5

Sad se vratiš na onaj moj post iznad i napraviš one korake da bi tu particiju mountao:
- napraviš direktorij u /mnt
- mountaš s -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda5 u taj /mnt/documents
- i to je to: otvoriš tu lokaciju u Nautilusu ili što već koristiš

Nisam ti namjerno pisao gotove naredbe što da c/p da probaš malo sam, ništa nije komplicirano, samo spoji ovaj post i onaj moj iznad - tak da nešto naučiš za ubuduće  Cool
Ako će ti radit javi pa da stavimo tu particiju u fstab da se sama mounta na autostartu Ubuntu-a, naravno, javi se i ako neće radit (ako ti mount ispiše grešku, ponavljam, c/p ovdje).

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Uspio sam mounto (zajaho :D) sam particiju, pa ako imas jos nesto vremene zamolio bih te da mi objasnis kako da ju stavim da se pokrece sa OS-om. Mada jos nisam ni resetirao Ubuntu pa neznam  dali je to potrebno, u svakom slucaju hvala ti na pomoci, živioSmijeh

 
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Ta postavka ti neće biti spremljena nakon restarta, već češ morati ponovno ručno mountati iz terminala. Da bi to izbjegao, odnosno, da ti se mounta automatski postupi ovako:

sudo gedit /etc/fstab

što će ti otvoriti tekstualnu datoteku u kojoj se nalaze svi uređaji (npr. diskovi/particije) što se mountaju prilikom startanja OS-a.

Ti dodaš na kraj ovo (u zaseban redak):
  /dev/sda5     /mnt/documents     ntfs-3g     defaults     0 0

I to je to. Ili umjesto toga možeš samo izvršit ovu naredbu:

sudo echo "/dev/sda5     /mnt/documents     ntfs-3g     defaults     0 0" >> /etc/fstab

što je ekvivalent (ali nemoj oboje onda  Belji se). Nakon toga ili restartaš računalo ili upišeš ovo:
sudo mount -a
Pozdrav.

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Hvala, sve radi kako bi i trebalo.

Poruka je uređivana zadnji put ned 6.7.2008 19:11 (Kizmar).
 
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Da li je ikako moguće da otvorim hard externi koji je zapisan u ntfs datotečnom sustavu i prebacim podatke u ubuntu, ako može bez terminala.

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nebi trebao imati nikakvih problema, ja koristim externi NTFS hard stalno (na njemu mi je multimedia), radi bez ikakve konfiguracije.

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