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Meni također dobro izgleda, kako Messi prima i zabija odlično.

To će trebat znat izvest i pritisnut u pravom trenutku :)

Onda će bit nerealno. Messi radi takve stvari s tolikom lakoćom da bi morali napraviti nešto tipa: Ako kontroliraš Messija drži L2 i R2, stisni X i onda on zabije gol.

Mislim da su rekli kada primi loptu gurne si ju s R2 a i to ovisi o tipu igrača.Kakvu ocjenu ima i specifičnu karticu ako se ne varam.

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Don Strongtoni kaže...
 12-ica mi vec postala naporna..

Meni je postala naporna još u rujnu.

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Wtf? Cista nerealnost, CR7 u obrani, koga oni prcaju? :P

 

Anyway, dobro izgleda, jedva cekam neki demo, 12-ica mi vec postala naporna..

Pa i Drogba je u Chealsiju igrao i obranu i napad kad su igrali protiv Barce XD

Poruka je uređivana zadnji put čet 7.6.2012 23:32 (Praetorian1).
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Kako sam hapyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

PES2013 demo will be out this summer July. #E3

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Ne sviđa mi se trenje lopte, od skače od terena ko da nema masu, neznam kako bi opisa. Pogledajte trailer i pratite pa ćete vidit.

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Odlično izgleda, jedva čekam DEMO.

 

 

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Odlično izgleda, jedva čekam DEMO.

 

 

Ako nisi pogledao demo izlazi ranije tj u 7 mj. :D

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Svatko tko zan engleski neka čita.Sve je objašnjeno.

 

In the UK it feels like last year FIFA pulled away from PES, more so than in previous years.

Jon Murphy: You can talk about two things: the quality of the product and the sales of the product. In terms of the sales of the product, clearly EA has been pulling right away from us. To be fair, if you look directly at the UK, we've never had a lead on them. We've always had a product quality lead on them, but we've never overtaken them in sales. There's always been a sales gap. The sales gap has grown in the UK. That's obvious. It's partly due to the quality of the product, which we've been improving and now stacks up easily against FIFA with this version. But it's also to do with the money spent on marketing and the money spent to lock us out of licenses.

There's a certain amount of work they've done very well on PR to convince people that the gap is bigger than it actually is.

What do you mean by that?

Jon Murphy: Opinion has turned against PES in a way that's been helped along that isn't necessarily born out by the quality of the product recently. There was a period of dissatisfaction with the product with good reason - several years - where we didn't know where we were going. But recently the quality of the product has come back, and I don't think we've been given proper respect for that because so many have bought into the idea that FIFA is better, just in the same way people bought into the idea PES was much better than FIFA in years gone by, and it took a while for them to get out of that situation because it was so ingrained. We're now seeing the opposite's true. There's an automatic assumption now that FIFA is just better.

For example, if you look at satisfaction with online experience, we get a lot of complaints from people saying they're not happy with the lag in PES, and that FIFA has perfect online play. We all know if you play FIFA online you have a whole series of problems. I'm not saying we're better online or they're better online, but the opinion swung around to put us under the microscope more than them these days. I also think we don't get enough recognition for the way we tend to innovate still and they do still tend to follow a lot of what we do.

Can you give me any examples of that?

Jon Murphy: If you look further back into the past of PES you can see they've obviously gone from a game that was totally different from PES to one that started copying PES to one that started taking areas PES did well further into the product they have now.

There's been a whole series of - and I'm sure they won't disagree with this - taking PES apart and rebuilding theirs in direct comparison. And you see other things, such as the replication of players, which we're now bouncing back at with our Player ID. And there are other recent examples as well where it seems as soon as we're announcing one thing they're announcing the same thing as well. I'm not sure how that happens by accident so often.

What are you saying there? Are you accusing EA of copying PES?

Jon Murphy: Yes.

I wouldn't say they are actively doing that right now. I'm saying they have a long history of copying PES to get to where they want to be. People shouldn't forget that's how they got where they are. You can give them loads of credit for how they've got to where they got to now, and you can see it as a totally valuable product in its own right that does have ideas we can all learn from, but we shouldn't forget that PES innovated all of this stuff and they did copy it.

 

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Svatko tko zan engleski neka čita.Sve je objašnjeno.

 

In the UK it feels like last year FIFA pulled away from PES, more so than in previous years.

Jon Murphy: You can talk about two things: the quality of the product and the sales of the product. In terms of the sales of the product, clearly EA has been pulling right away from us. To be fair, if you look directly at the UK, we've never had a lead on them. We've always had a product quality lead on them, but we've never overtaken them in sales. There's always been a sales gap. The sales gap has grown in the UK. That's obvious. It's partly due to the quality of the product, which we've been improving and now stacks up easily against FIFA with this version. But it's also to do with the money spent on marketing and the money spent to lock us out of licenses.

There's a certain amount of work they've done very well on PR to convince people that the gap is bigger than it actually is.

What do you mean by that?

Jon Murphy: Opinion has turned against PES in a way that's been helped along that isn't necessarily born out by the quality of the product recently. There was a period of dissatisfaction with the product with good reason - several years - where we didn't know where we were going. But recently the quality of the product has come back, and I don't think we've been given proper respect for that because so many have bought into the idea that FIFA is better, just in the same way people bought into the idea PES was much better than FIFA in years gone by, and it took a while for them to get out of that situation because it was so ingrained. We're now seeing the opposite's true. There's an automatic assumption now that FIFA is just better.

For example, if you look at satisfaction with online experience, we get a lot of complaints from people saying they're not happy with the lag in PES, and that FIFA has perfect online play. We all know if you play FIFA online you have a whole series of problems. I'm not saying we're better online or they're better online, but the opinion swung around to put us under the microscope more than them these days. I also think we don't get enough recognition for the way we tend to innovate still and they do still tend to follow a lot of what we do.

Can you give me any examples of that?

Jon Murphy: If you look further back into the past of PES you can see they've obviously gone from a game that was totally different from PES to one that started copying PES to one that started taking areas PES did well further into the product they have now.

There's been a whole series of - and I'm sure they won't disagree with this - taking PES apart and rebuilding theirs in direct comparison. And you see other things, such as the replication of players, which we're now bouncing back at with our Player ID. And there are other recent examples as well where it seems as soon as we're announcing one thing they're announcing the same thing as well. I'm not sure how that happens by accident so often.

What are you saying there? Are you accusing EA of copying PES?

Jon Murphy: Yes.

I wouldn't say they are actively doing that right now. I'm saying they have a long history of copying PES to get to where they want to be. People shouldn't forget that's how they got where they are. You can give them loads of credit for how they've got to where they got to now, and you can see it as a totally valuable product in its own right that does have ideas we can all learn from, but we shouldn't forget that PES innovated all of this stuff and they did copy it.

 

ovoliko gluposti od nekog developera igre ne pročitah u životu, ova izjava samo pokazuje koliko su nemoćni i jadni zadnjih nekoliko godina, a frajer još tvrdi da su trenutno kvalitetom iznad FIFE. LOL.

Svake godine sam sve bliže i bliže da uopće ne probam PES kad vidim kakvi idioti rade igru. Ne čudi me uopće što je PES otišao u krivom smjeru kad vidim izjave ovog debila.

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Koja hrpa luzera u Konamiju. Umjesto da otvoreno priznaju da su dosad radili apsolutno ništa svake godine i pustili igru da propada, oni pljuju po FIFI da krade od njih. Pa FIFA je svjetlosnim godinama ispred. 

 

EDIT: antimadridista me prestigao

EDIT 2: Nisam ni primijetio prvu rečenicu gdje Tommy napiše da je tu sve objašnjeno. Bome je, sad mi je sve jasno lol. Tnx Tommy, bar si mi ulijepšao dan ak ništa drugo.

 

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{#}

Koja hrpa luzera u Konamiju. Umjesto da otvoreno priznaju da su dosad radili apsolutno ništa svake godine i pustili igru da propada, oni pljuju po FIFI da krade od njih. Pa FIFA je svjetlosnim godinama ispred. 

 

EDIT: antimadridista me prestigao

EDIT 2: Nisam ni primijetio prvu rečenicu gdje Tommy napiše da je tu sve objašnjeno. Bome je, sad mi je sve jasno lol. Tnx Tommy, bar si mi ulijepšao dan ak ništa drugo.

 

Jesi sretan sad ?

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Over at CVG they've put together their full list of E3 2012 Awards and who was crowned with the best sports game....our very own PES 2013!

Here's what Daniel Dawkins, Xbox World / PSM3 Editor had to say...

"There's little to choose between the excellent PES 2013 and FIFA 13, so in the interests of bias, I'll plump for Konami's game - if only for so successfully escaping the tragedy of its early days on PS3. Full manual passing and shooting liberates the play, and you need to work harder than Superman with a kryptonite tin opener to split opposition defenders. The Player ID system makes star players like Ronaldo and Iniesta feel truly unique, and the first touch system allows skilled players to elevate themselves further above newcomers. Visually, it's still less fluid than FIFA, but both games are worth shaking your Tica-takas at."

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Meni se čini ili je grafika nešto poboljšana?

 

 

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Meni se čini ili je grafika nešto poboljšana?

 

 

Ovo nisu HD fotke.Vidjet ćemo za mjesec dana.Valjda će izać neki gmply.

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pa mislim da bi i bilo vrijeme da napokon naprave jedan pravi pes kojeg ce se moci igrati do iduceg...ako ce biti sve onako kako su dosad najavljivali usudim se reci da ce to onda i biti najbolji pes ikada ali samo da ispune sva svoja obecanja...najvise mi se dopalo ono s specificnim potezima pojedinog igraca i postavljanjem obrane i golmana...takoder ocekujem kvalitetne udarce i dodavanja...nek porade na sucima jer u 12-tici na 10 tekmi ako sam dobio 2 faula a u svakoj tekmi napavio 10 najmanje sto me zivciralo uzasno i da malo realnije naprave mogucnosti nekog igraca ovisno o njegovoj kvaliteti recimo u ovom pesu bilo koji igrac je mogao preci 3-4 moja igraca samo tako bez obzira bio to messi il neko iz boltona sto mi je sasvim nerealno...nadam se povratku pesa u pravom svjetlu :))

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Istina je da je u zadnje vrijeme FIFA pretekla PES. Bolja je u mnogočemu - od gameplaya do atmosfere i doživljaja. Ali, nekako, PES za moj ukus ipak ima bolju grafiku i ide glatko bez ijednog trzaja za razliku od FIFA-e kod koje stalno primjećujem neki stuttering.

Sve u svemu, uvijek se potrudim imati i PES i FIFU - PES za grafiku i zabavu, a FIFU za doživljaj nogometa.

 

Ono što meni osobno najviše smeta kod obje igre je izostanak prave podrške za tipkovnicu. Kažem "prave" jer me živcira to što su u igri prikazane samo kontrole tipa LT, RT, A, B, X i Y... Na kraju krajeva, možete imati i gamepad s brojevima, pa je i njegovo korištenje opet otežano.

Dakle, ispada da bih trebao na samoj tipkovnici napisati te oznake da znam kako ću, recimo, sejvati replay... 

 

X=D, Y=A, RT=Q, LT=E, itd.

 

Situacija je, zapravo, daleko kompliciranija kad treba sređivati kontrole:

X=shoot=D, Y=lob=A, itd.

 

Volim igrati nogomet s tipkovnicom, jer sam navikao još od davne legendarne FIFA-e 98, koja se grafički ne može mjeriti sa današnjim igrama, ali po mnogočemu i dalje nema premca.

 

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Nove kontrole.

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Što je promijenjeno? Ne vidim razlike.
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Što je promijenjeno? Ne vidim razlike.

Pa jesi slijep ? {#}

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Što je promijenjeno? Ne vidim razlike.

Pa jesi slijep ? {#}

Slova na ovoj prvoj slici su toliko mala da sam ju odmah ignorirao. Ovo ostalo izgleda više manje isto ko i u PES 12 koliko se sjećam. Ne vidim neku ogromnu promjenu, pa zato pitam.

 

Ti si mogao lijepo reći da ne znaš, a ne vrijeđati. 

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Pa jesi slijep ? {#}

Slova na ovoj prvoj slici su toliko mala da sam ju odmah ignorirao. Ovo ostalo izgleda više manje isto ko i u PES 12 koliko se sjećam. Ne vidim neku ogromnu promjenu, pa zato pitam.

 

Ti si mogao lijepo reći da ne znaš, a ne vrijeđati. 

Otvoriš sliku u novo jkratici ili ako oćeš poslat ću ti link na PM.

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Daj ove slike linkaj jer ovako bez obzira di otvoril nevidi se ništa.

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Tommy_123 kaže...
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Tommy_123 kaže...
Hexfire kaže...
Što je promijenjeno? Ne vidim razlike.

Pa jesi slijep ? {#}

Slova na ovoj prvoj slici su toliko mala da sam ju odmah ignorirao. Ovo ostalo izgleda više manje isto ko i u PES 12 koliko se sjećam. Ne vidim neku ogromnu promjenu, pa zato pitam.

 

Ti si mogao lijepo reći da ne znaš, a ne vrijeđati. 

Otvoriš sliku u novo jkratici ili ako oćeš poslat ću ti link na PM.

Zašto jednostavno ne kažeš kakve su promjene. Šta nas mučiš {#}

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Daj ove slike linkaj jer ovako bez obzira di otvoril nevidi se ništa.

Evo.

http://i.imgur.com/pBoW3.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/hLK8O.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/KSa53.jpg

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Bi se mogao znat izvor toga?

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Bi se mogao znat izvor toga?

WENB.Prenio od strane konamia neki španjolski site.Nemože bit fake.

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jel se zna kad će izać demo ovaj sto su govorili u 7 mjesecu?

 
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Sigurno izlazi u 7 mjesecu,samo se nezna datum.

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lijepo se nadam da će konačno pes 2013 donijeti nešto novo,inovativno!{#} neki novi mod,grafički element.

 
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